Tuesday, 26 June 2012

Talk Jesus, Chad Exposed along with Christian Hypocrisy + LogicWeb (Virtuso Net Solutions) Exposed

TalkJesus is a forum for Christians where they can gather and discuss the scripture. The forum has an assortment of many Christians from different sects with different beliefs and different opinions. One would expect then, that the moderators would be able to respect other views but sadly this is far from the truth. For example, the creator and admin of the site (Chad) happens to be a hypocritical, lying and intolerant person who is filled with great animosity to those with different opinions and views from the Christianity of The Church. I once used the site and I argued that Christ was not God because no scriptural evidence supports this. Furthermore, I argued that several of the people on the forum who were claiming to hear God's voice were either demon possessed or simply crazy because there is no evidence of God speaking to anyone recently and the last true prophet was Jesus the Christ. Chad also happens to be a lair and fraudster but we'll come to that last.

In response for stating these things I was banned by the hypocrite Chad and here's what he had to say:

"You're a "deluded" fool. You judge others, GOD will judge you the same. Take your self righteous garbage elsewhere.You think I'm stupid I don't know what PM's you sent? You deleting them is a joke. Hiding something? You're "deluded." -- Chad

Filled with paranoid hate isn't it? Chad was referring to me telling another user (esthy09) that God does not speak to her and that she's crazy if she thinks that he does. I was actually replying to one of her comments attacking me where she wrote in CAPS lock claiming that I was of Satan because I didn't believe her. This expressed her anger which - according to The Bible - is unchristian. Now why would God speak to someone who is full of hate and anger and choose them as his personal prophet? She didn't even have evidence of her claims so I was right to doubt her and Jesus even told us to beware of those who came after him who claimed to be prophets of God:

Matthew 24:11 "And many false prophets will appear and deceive many people."

Matthew 24:5 "For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many."

Matthew 7:15 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves."

So it was reasonable and Christian of me to doubt the claims of esthy09 just like it's reasonable to conclude that Chad is unchristian based on his hate-filled behavior. Chad is like many "Christians" today, he honors God with his lips but not with his heart.

Mark 7:6 "He replied, "Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: "'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me."

Isaiah 29:13 "The Lord says: "These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is made up only of rules taught by men."

Chad and other Christians worship God according to the rules of man. For example the belief that Christ is God is a belief that The Church created. No where in The Bible is such a belief found. No words from Christ affirm that he was God and the verses supporting the trinity are few and ambiguous. Verses showing that Jesus held that God was different from him (and above him) are many and there are even words from Jesus which support the idea that he couldn't have been God because he honors and prays to him.

Biblical Evidence Jesus was NOT God:

Acts 10:38 "how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him."

Acts 2:22 "Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know."

Notice the distinction between God and Christ. These verses refer to the two are two different beings. God acted through Jesus, Jesus had the Holy Spirit (God) within him but he was not God. The apostles and disciples knew this because Jesus NEVER claimed to be God.

Acts 3:18 But this is how God fulfilled what he had foretold through all the prophets, saying that his Christ would suffer.

Again if the disciples and apostles believed that Jesus was God, they would not be writing that Christ suffered, instead they would be writing that God suffered. Acts 3:18 even makes the distinction between the two showing that Christ is a servant of God by using the words "his Christ" meaning that Christ serves God.

Here Jesus himself states that he doesn't know the day or hour when the world will end and states that only God knows which further proves that Jesus has a separate mind from God and therefore can't be him:

Matthew 24:36 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

Those that believe in the trinity point to this verse as proof that Jesus was God:

John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

But they ignore this verse which states we will all become one with God:

John 17:21 "That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me."

What Jesus speaks of here is The Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is God (The Holy Spirit is the word), that much is clear. All who have The Holy Spirit in them are one with God just as Jesus is one but does this make us God himself? No. We do not share God's mind nor do we know what he thinks, nor do we share the same essence. If Jesus is God then so are we. Surely you can see how this is blasphemy at its best?

Jesus also said that God was greater than him (John 14:28). Further more, Jesus PRAYED to God proving that he couldn't possibly be God:

Matthew 26:39 "Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."

Luke 22:42 "Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done."

In John 17, Jesus prays to God yet again:

After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed:
“Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. 2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. 4 I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
Jesus Prays for His Disciples

6 “I have revealed you[a] to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word. 7 Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you. 8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me. 9 I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours. 10 All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them. 11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of[b] your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one. 12 While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by[c] that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.
13 “I am coming to you now, but I say these things while I am still in the world, so that they may have the full measure of my joy within them. 14 I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world. 15 My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. 17 Sanctify them by[d] the truth; your word is truth. 18 As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. 19 For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.
Jesus Prays for All Believers

20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one — 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved themeven as you have loved me.
24 “Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.
25 “Righteous Father, though the world does not know you, I know you, and they know that you have sent me. 26 I have made you[e] known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them.”

It's clear that he couldn't have been God.

Jesus was divine.

John 6:38 "For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me."

But he wasn't God and Jesus himself states this with these words above which show a distinction between him and God. Christians who believe Jesus was God do so without any scripture evidence and scripture evidence that they do produce is ambiguous and can be interpreted in any way. However, the fact that Jesus makes a distinction between himself and God and also prays to God validates that they are two different beings.

There are those who claim that the statement that Jesus was not God is heresy (even though it's backed by scripture evidence) and that those who believe such aren't true Christians but these hypocrites should remember what Jesus said about judging:

Luke 6:37 "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven."

Moving on and we uncover evidence that Chad happens to be the owner and one man team behind Logicweb (previously known as Virtuoso Net Solutions). Chad completely rips off his customers and even committed fraud at one point.


A quick Google search of Virtuoso Net Solutions should also reveal the shady background behind it.

It's impossible that Chad is a Christian. He's not. He's a con artist, a liar and a coward. This brings us back to what The Bibles warns us about: wolves in sheep's clothing.